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Ocean-angler
10-30-2009, 10:57 PM
Updated list on Kencor rods. Alot has happened since I first posted this, and this is all that is now left. The owner has nothing left, no blanks, no rods.
Theres maybe 10 total rods not listed here


805 400 7239 Cell
Byron


Condition Remaining
Inventory Model Line rating Length Price

FRESHWATER
NZ series trout rods
black and gray graphite/glass composite
new 3 NZ4-2V 1-4lb 4' $32.00
new 1 NZ5V 1-6lb 5' $34.00
new 10 NZ5-2V 2-6lb 5' $34.00
new 3 NZ56-2V 1-6lb 5'6" $34.00
new 4 NZ63 2-6lb 6' $40.00
new 4 NZ66-2V 4-10lb 6'6" $39.00
new 3 NZ76-2V 4-8lb 7'6" $42.00
new 2 NZXL7-2V 2-4lb 7' $42.00
SP series trout rods
Japanese orange "Tenlew magnaglass"
new 5 PAC53 2-6lb 5' $130.00
new 1 SP4HV 2-6lb 4' $110.00
new 4 SP4V 1-4lb 4' $100.00
new 4 SP4.5-2V 1-6lb 4'6" $95.00
new 1 SP5.5-2LV 2-6lb 5'6" $110.00
new 14 SP5-2V 2-6lb 5' $100.00
new 4 SP6.6-2V 4-10lb 6'6" $120.00
new 22 SP6-2V 4-10lb 6' $115.00
almost new 1 Noodle 90 4-12lb 9' $140.00
repaired 1 Noodle 90 6-12lb 8'8" $95.00
new 1 XL-1(5'8") 1lb 5'8" $120.00
new 1 XL-2 2lb 5'8" $120.00
new 1 XL-2 second grade 2lb 5'8" $110.00
NZ Leadcore trolling rods
Dark blue/blue graphite/glass composite
new 5 NZLC1000AOX 12-15lb 6'6" $45.00
new 6 NZLC1100AOX 15-18lb 6'6" $45.00
SALTWATER
Magna Ocean series rods
black glass rods
new 2 BP 700 LC 10-30lb 7' $47.00
new 1 BP 700 MC 15-40lb 7' $47.00
new 1 BP 700 MHC 20-50lb 7' $47.00
new 4 BP700-XHC 30-80lb 7' $54.00
new 1 BPOS 800MS 15-40lb 8' $75.00
Graf Ocean series rods
black/gray spiral graphite rods
new 2 GP 700 MC 15-40lb 7' $70.00
new 1 GPOS 800MS 15-40lb 8' $80.00
new 1 GPOS 800XHC 30-80lb 8' $85.00
new 1 GPOS 900MC 20-50lb 9' $100.00
Magnaglass series rods
Japanese orange "Tenlew magnaglass"
new 1 610-70S 12-40lb 7' $180.00
new 1 610-70C 12-40lb 7' $180.00
new 1 710-7 10-30lb 7' $150.00
new 1 Kayak710-6S 10-30lb 6' $144.00
Magnaglass Panga series rods
Japanese orange "Tenlew magnaglass"
new 1 707H 20-50lb 5'10" $150.00
new 1 703HS 10-40lb 5' $138.00
new 1 707HS 20-50lb 4'9" $138.00
new 2 707HC 20-50lb 4'9" $135.00
NZ Kayak series rods
Dark blue/blue graphite/glass composite
new 1 NZKayak 770C 8-30lb 7' $65.00
new 2 NZKayak 776C 15-40lb 7'6" $65.00
NZ Panga series rods
Dark blue/blue graphite/glass composite
new 1 NZ707XH 30-60lb 5' $60.00
new 2 NZ707XXH 30-80lb 5'6" $70.00
QNZ series surf rods
Green/Blackish candycane grapphite/glass composite
new 1 QNZ 10H 15-30lb 10' $68.00
new 1 QNZ 12H 12-40lb 12' $78.00
new 1 QNZ 313H 20-40lb 13' $85.00
QNZ series telescoping surf rods
Green/Blackish candycane grapphite/glass composite
new 9 QNZ Telesurf270 6-15lb 9' $40.00
new 13 QNZ Telesurf300 6-15lb 10' $50.00
new 6 QNZ Telesurf360 6-15lb 12' $60.00
new 2 QNZ Telesurf420 6-15lb 14' $75.00
QNZ series saltwater rods
Green/Blackish candycane grapphite/glass composite
new 1 QNZ GKS 56 40-140lb 5'6" $130.00
new 2 QNZ 410*2050 20-50lb 4'10" $65.00
new 3 QNZ 66*3080 A 30-80lb 6'6" $75.00
new 1 QNZ 66*1540 LR 15-40lb 6'6" $65.00
new 4 QNZ 7*1030 10-30lb 7' $65.00
new 3 QNZ 7*1240 12-40lb 7' $70.00
new 1 QNZ 7*2050 20-50lb 7' $70.00





and TONS of Kencor prototype trolling rods, bass rods and trout rods



805 400 7239 Cell
Byron
or email at byronkeathley@gmail.com

Troutman65
10-31-2009, 12:18 AM
I knew of Kencor closing its doors . I did not know that Turners & Sport Chalet were not paying for the rods they had. :Shocked:

Kencor trout fishing rods are my fav. fishing rods. I will certainly be in contact with you to buy a few rods over the next few months as I am unemployed now and that is the only way I can buy them.


Thanks for posting up


Patrick, TM65

GeordyBass
10-31-2009, 08:33 AM
Wow I didn't know about kencor going out of business!

Their rods are great!

How about the lifetime warranties they used to have?

Good Luck with the sale.:Cool:

bayfisher86
11-01-2009, 02:43 PM
the trout rods sell great but unfortunately all the saltwater,trolling,panga, and swimbait rods dont sell for sh*t..... why would anyone spend 109 bucks on a swimbait rod when all that happens is every insert on the guides pop out? ive seen more broken kencors then any other rod. dont go blaming sportchalet and turners for putting a company out of business...if they werent paying for their product why would he keep supplying them over and over until he was in so deep he couldnt get out? that doesnt seem too logical..if they didnt pay the first time dont you think he would wait for a payment before giving them more rods? my 2 cents

fisherman from long beach
11-02-2009, 12:07 PM
the trout rods sell great but unfortunately all the saltwater,trolling,panga, and swimbait rods dont sell for sh*t..... why would anyone spend 109 bucks on a swimbait rod when all that happens is every insert on the guides pop out? ive seen more broken kencors then any other rod. dont go blaming sportchalet and turners for putting a company out of business...if they werent paying for their product why would he keep supplying them over and over until he was in so deep he couldnt get out? that doesnt seem too logical..if they didnt pay the first time dont you think he would wait for a payment before giving them more rods? my 2 cents
i have a 9ftr (noodle)kencor 4-12lb test,i just love this rod no probs what so ever.great snsitivity great flex,i have a crucial rod,but prefer to fish with the kencor.but thats just me.

bayfisher86
11-02-2009, 12:09 PM
like i said the trout rods are great, the rest of the rods i am unimpressed with

fisherman from long beach
11-02-2009, 02:24 PM
like i said the trout rods are great, the rest of the rods i am unimpressed with
imo i like em, really enjoy my rod,ive recommended this rod to a couple of peeps
but hey thats just me.

agbluesea
11-02-2009, 02:42 PM
I highly doubt Sport Chalet or Turner's put him out of business. If a company's business model failed, under/over projected demand, didn't have a good marketing stragegy, didn't have access to capital, expanded their line too much, had quality issues, etc, they might be inclined to blame someone else. I'm not necessarily saying Kencor had these problems, but if a retailer owed them money, they'd have a legal right to it. I didn't see SC or Turner's declare bankruptcy, which is about the only way they could not pay him. In today's economy it's truly survival of the fittest and blaming someone else for your demise sounds like a cheap shot. :Confused:

Ocean-angler
11-02-2009, 06:05 PM
I knew of Kencor closing its doors . I did not know that Turners & Sport Chalet were not paying for the rods they had. :Shocked:

Kencor trout fishing rods are my fav. fishing rods. I will certainly be in contact with you to buy a few rods over the next few months as I am unemployed now and that is the only way I can buy them.


Thanks for posting up


Patrick, TM65
Cool, Ill be around, and Ill have the rods with more to come until they dry up. you can just email me at Byronkeathley@gmail.com. keep it for ur records when ur ready
thanks


the trout rods sell great but unfortunately all the saltwater,trolling,panga, and swimbait rods dont sell for sh*t..... why would anyone spend 109 bucks on a swimbait rod when all that happens is every insert on the guides pop out? ive seen more broken kencors then any other rod. dont go blaming sportchalet and turners for putting a company out of business...if they werent paying for their product why would he keep supplying them over and over until he was in so deep he couldnt get out? that doesnt seem too logical..if they didnt pay the first time dont you think he would wait for a payment before giving them more rods? my 2 cents

Ive been dealing with Kencor for a decent amount of time. Theyve been in business for over 30 years making some of the best saltwater rods for years.

I have only seen one line of rod have guide inserts come out, those are the swimbait rods with ceramic guides. and more specifically, I have only seen it on one rod. I have origional sabres that Ive seen guides come off, and also recently warrantied a seeker black steel for a guide coming off. it happens .

Kencor has been known for the Tenlew Magnaglass saltwar rods which are some of the most flexible rods yet have amazing backbone, and considering the mainline companies that are now popular Jaws rainshadow etc, many of them are outsourcing their blanks to China

Kencor is also known for their ZIBRA line of rods, which basically have an undectable Backbone. theres nothign out there like that, unless u go and get ur blank acid wrapped.



I highly doubt Sport Chalet or Turner's put him out of business. If a company's business model failed, under/over projected demand, didn't have a good marketing stragegy, didn't have access to capital, expanded their line too much, had quality issues, etc, they might be inclined to blame someone else. I'm not necessarily saying Kencor had these problems, but if a retailer owed them money, they'd have a legal right to it. I didn't see SC or Turner's declare bankruptcy, which is about the only way they could not pay him. In today's economy it's truly survival of the fittest and blaming someone else for your demise sounds like a cheap shot. :Confused:

What happened with Kencor is easily understandable, if you know what happened.

for years, when Kenny owned Kencor, ALL blanks were made in Japan, which is more then can be said for any manufacturer nowadays making rods.
No one could ever compare or touch Kencor at that time. Kennys idea was to keep limited distribution and reputation high. which is exactly the way it was. When Kenny died, and James took over, he decided to introduce Chinese blanks

once word got to Seeker and Cal star Pro staffers that Kencor had chinese rods, they bad mouthed the rods on forums like this and others where word of mouth can ruin an already small company.

yea, u do get some rods that break, as with all companies, but thats what a 5 year warranty on their CHEAP rods was for. no one has a 5 year warranty on a rod that retails for $40-$80, again cant touch that

Ugly stick, yea theyve got a 5 year warranty
but if u want anything over a 1 year warranty on any rod, u gotta spend $150 - $300 for a lifetime warranty
Kencor still had that, along with cheaper rods

Reputation goes down, and so do sales.
Turners being one of their biggest retailers sales go down because of the economy, for one.
James goes in to collect, and they say sorry we need another 30 days... can we have some of the hot selling rods though to pay for the last batch? james gives them more

It happened over and over.
guys come in with this kencor sucks notion now, and see a Kencor Zibra for $240 and think why buy this when I can buya Seeker for $200, which btw cant compare to the Zibra.. so it doesnt sell
Turners marks them down below cost
and doesnt pay for them, or gives the owenr less than cost and says " well we couldnt sell it for more so heres all we got"
u do that with enough product and ur balance goes up. Not to mention theres a MASSIVE language barrier. the owner has an extremely heavy accent and is very hard to understand, so the communication isnt there

Turners is shady
They owed Heckler and Koch ( gun company) over $100,000
the owner simply wasnt paying his bills. why do u think Turners just got bought out?
now its owned by 3 different guys
and because its under new ownership, their old debts are cancelled, or thats how the new owners are treating it...

Turners is a big company and has been around for 20+ years themselves.. theyve got good attorneys.
its not worth going to court over itll cost James too much money and time, and his attorney will just end up with the money.



does that make sense?


And sport chalet, dont know their complete story other then they hadnt paid the owner for over 7 months
when u consider how many stores they have and their Kencor inventory, thats a floating balance on stock easily over $40,000 +
for a 2 man company with 1 tiny warehouse, that + Turners, in a bad econmy = out of buiness
You can spend months going to court and trying to fight it, but instead James started 2 more buiness to keep money flow

BassinChef
11-02-2009, 11:32 PM
So since your selling these rods and standing behind them will you honor their warranty,because if not I would expect them to be heavily discounted.I also happen to be one of those people who bought a kencor rod NZ66-2v and when it broke and I took it to a kencor authorized retailer, I was expecting a replacement or something they basically told me I was S.O.L.The rod is a great rod but i`m also out $50 bucks, so who knows how many other people got burned by all of this that has transpired.

BassinChef

Troutman65
11-03-2009, 07:04 AM
I am a huge Kencor Tenlew magnaglass fishing rod fan for trout fishing. Now if the Co. kencor goes out of business you can not expect to get your lifetime warranty. I am bummed at that . That was a cool thing when I bought my rods new at Turners.

You also can not expect someone to sell Kencor Tenlew Magnaglass rods for cheep either. The price is what the market will bear . That goes with any product .


I will be in touch very soon Byron.:Big Grin:

Ocean-angler
11-03-2009, 08:14 AM
So since your selling these rods and standing behind them will you honor their warranty,because if not I would expect them to be heavily discounted.I also happen to be one of those people who bought a kencor rod NZ66-2v and when it broke and I took it to a kencor authorized retailer, I was expecting a replacement or something they basically told me I was S.O.L.The rod is a great rod but i`m also out $50 bucks, so who knows how many other people got burned by all of this that has transpired.

BassinChef
reason Turners doesnt honor the warranty is because they burned the owner. the inventory they have will dry up. Its not like they can come back to the owner for warranty rods:Embarrassed:
and same thing with Sport Chalet
However, I can. I deal with him directly and didnt burn him
Show me a receipt and Ill swap it for you. in fact, Ive got the same rod you have only a 5'5' in stock and can swap it for that this week. If you got a receipt..:Wink:

Ocean-angler
11-03-2009, 08:18 AM
I am a huge Kencor Tenlew magnaglass fishing rod fan for trout fishing. Now if the Co. kencor goes out of business you can not expect to get your lifetime warranty. I am bummed at that . That was a cool thing when I bought my rods new at Turners.

You also can not expect someone to sell Kencor Tenlew Magnaglass rods for cheep either. The price is what the market will bear . That goes with any product .


I will be in touch very soon Byron.:Big Grin:

I know
and especially for the price they were. cheapest rod witha lifetime warranty.
But its not that bad because I have yet to see a magnaglass trout rod break from fishing.
The goal is to sell the company , but at this point its not looking good.
and that lifetime warranty in mind... I wonder if Turners still honors their lifetime warranties on CALIFORNIA rods.... since its under new ownership...

fishrookie
11-03-2009, 06:11 PM
damn i hate to hear that. i love my trout rods. i took alot of trout with them. thats one of the risks you take with owning a biz and doing a credit line on your product. he should of just got tough with them it sounds like he let them buffalo him over to the point where they killed his company. i personally dont deal with tuners or SC i got to grantboys to get my kencor rods. by the way where are you located i might pick up another trout rod

camman
11-04-2009, 09:49 AM
So are all the blanks now made in China?

Seems like it was a business decision on the part of Kencor to expand the line and to import cheaper blanks to make a larger margin in profit. They figured they could get away with a lower quality blank and product but make their money in volume....

It backfired and now reality sets in....doesnt seem any different than the thousands of other companies which go belly up every year. Greed it not always good....

Its mind boggling to me that a company would get screwed over by Turners and Sport Chalet and just take it...

Ocean-angler
11-04-2009, 10:43 AM
So are all the blanks now made in China?

Seems like it was a business decision on the part of Kencor to expand the line and to import cheaper blanks to make a larger margin in profit. They figured they could get away with a lower quality blank and product but make their money in volume....

It backfired and now reality sets in....doesnt seem any different than the thousands of other companies which go belly up every year. Greed it not always good....

Its mind boggling to me that a company would get screwed over by Turners and Sport Chalet and just take it...

No, not all the blanks are Chinese
you guys didnt pay attention to the whole SHpeil i put LOL

Kencor has (2) lines of blanks
Chinese
and Japanese

Japanese blanks are untouchable
they are super lightweight and extremely strong.
for example, a 7' 12-40# kencor japanese blank only weighs about 4 ounces... thats really light

Kenny ( old owner) only used Japanese blanks
James ( new owner) ADDED chinese blanks to the lineup

Kencor had a total of about 53 product lines totalling over 160 different rods

I am a kayak fisherman myself. I like short light weight rated rods for fishing smack dab in teh middle of kelp patties. TO this day, I have only seen 1 company ( out of okuma, penn, cal star, seeker) make a single 5' 12-40# range kayak rod...
But Kencor, had about 20 different models ranging from 4'10 -5'10 from 8-20 to 30-60# kayak rods
and theyre chinese rods had a 5 year warranty.. a kayak rod for $70 with a 5 year warranty.. no one can compare.. uglystick has a 5 year warranty for under $100, but no other companies do

Ocean-angler
11-04-2009, 10:44 AM
im in Norco CA

Troutman65
11-04-2009, 12:04 PM
im in Norco CA



I'll drive out when I am ready to buy. I wrote down some model #s that I want . I would like to see the rods I purchase . :Big Grin: I am thinking 1 rod next week.:Big Grin:

2jackedLUNGS
11-26-2009, 11:51 PM
i like kencors, ive never had a problem with mine.

Ocean-angler
08-12-2011, 08:27 PM
bump, I finally updated the inventory quantities and pricing