I hate to say this , but........... People need to be watched (I guess, what a shame). So how 'bout a couple of "fishing referees" (security if you like) cruising around in boats with binoculars and/or walking the shoreline watching everyone that needs to be watched. A secured tourney is one option - now how do you do it?
Has it really come to this? Have people let it get to this?
I don't think a couple of signatures is going to do a thing. People have been lying forever, and will continue to do so. crashburn2020
I am an attorney guys and i hate to say that the "legally binding contract" and "prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law, and we mean it" really doesnt mean anything as far as holding someone legally liable. The above suggestion regarding the polygraph is your best bet. Prosecuting someone belongs to the District Attorney of Orange County and you may be hard pressed to get the sheriff to investigate such a case and the DA to go with it given budgetary contraints. Just thoughts about being effective in your prevention techniques. Good luck.
Good luck Bryan, it will get better and resolved quickly I am sure . Its a shame people try to take advantage of almost every thing in this world or want it for free and you are doing a great thing by trying to make fishing fun and the chance to win big bucks but there is always a chump trying to take whats not theirs.
I hope this does not spoil good times for many by a few bad actions from some. These tournaments are hell to put together and I hope someday everyone understands and appreciates what your doing. They just need to have fun and go catch some fish, its simple boys .... Dont be a dick!
Your definatly going to need a different Idea than 2 witnesses. That is just crazy (not thought threw very well, I hope your attorney didn't come up with that or you need to give him the old Donald Trump "YOUR FIRED") routine, and a "Polygragh" someone needs to get reel. And as they say in the shark tank "For this reason I'm out".
Last edited by Big Daddy; 04-08-2012 at 04:43 PM.
Two witnesses would require two other people being present. Single boat anglers, tubers and yakers would encounter defacto disqualification. Requiring three people in a boat, or on the water referees to witness the catch would be other options, but the two other people present on the boat would require a blind draw for buddies, also requiring the numbers of entrants to be in multiples of three (can't divide 61 boat anglers into equal groups of three.)
Forfeiture of a deposit would be awesome, but that would turn our passtime into a more elite pursuit, alienating too many people who, for whatever reason, could not post the deposit and that's not right.
Probably the best thing going is what happened Saturday with lake employees witnessing the act. That in itself should be iron-clad and irrefutable evidence.
Best scenario is long-term (permanent would be better) disqualification from future tournaments or lake admission, and fullest legal prosecution.
Although the 2 witness idea would work at SARL & Corona it would not work at Irvine. IMO the VINE has had a problem with people walking the shores sight fishing which in most cases this season has led to all the controversy. Throwing a jig at a trout in your zone is fine but chasing a trout all down the shorelines for 30 mins until it finally bites or snaged is another. Not sure if you are aware Brian, this season at Irvine lake, thousands of dollars have been paid out to people using this method and it is actually going to start growing if not stopped.
I have no idea how it would be entered into the rules or worded but it really does need to be added!
Secret spy fisherman without an agenda and not entered into the contest. I'd bet there would be many on this board that would volunteer to ensure our sport/recreational activity isn't further drug through the mud by those that have only greed and notoriety as their motive.
It really sucks that it has come to this and I would hate to be in Brian's shoes. It is a testimant to Brian and the Irvine lake staff for taking this seriously but things like this have been going on for quite some time. I as a kayaker have caught many trout without a witness close enough to verify how I caught said fish. This is a good idea in theory but just not doable on Irvine lake. I don't know what the surefire answer to stop this is but hopefully someone will come up with a brillant idea.
Last edited by BRING IT; 04-08-2012 at 08:52 PM.